Interview with Jared Bernstein

Dr. Jared Bernstein is a Consulting Professor of Linguistics at Stanford
University and has taught English and linguistics in the Middle East and
South America. Along with Dr. Brent Townshend (inventor of the 56K modem) he
developed the revolutionary PhonePass test, which uses speech recognition to
accurately and reliably test a person's spoken English ability.
This interview was first published in the ELT News magazine in October, 2002.
ELTNEWS
ELT: How did you and Dr Townshend decide that a system like PhonePass was needed?
Jared
JB: The "global economy" relies more and more on back-and-forth spoken
communication, most often in English. We realized that today's
corporations, universities, schools and governments all need to know that
their employees or students can function well in an English-speaking
environment. At the same time, we noticed that there was no service that
provided a fast and sure way to measure a person's spoken English ability.
Considering this and our combined areas of expertise, the idea of a system
like PhonePass was very natural.
ELTNEWS
How does PhonePass work?
Jared
PhonePass scores are based on the exact words used in the spoken responses,
as well as the pace, fluency, and pronunciation of those words in phrases
and sentences. PhonePass technology uses a speech recognition system that is
specially designed to handle different rhythms and varied pronunciations
commonly used by native speakers of English and people who speak English as
a second language. In addition to recognizing the words uttered, the system
also aligns the speech signal, i.e., it locates that part of signal that
contains relevant segments, syllables, and words.

Base measures are then
derived from the linguistic units (segments, syllables, words), based on
statistical models of native speakers. The base measures are combined into
five diagnostic subscores using advanced statistical modeling techniques.
The diagnostic subscores are: Listening Vocabulary, Repeat Accuracy,
Pronunciation, Reading Fluency, and Repeat Fluency. An overall summary grade
is calculated as a weighted combination of the five diagnostic subscores,
re-scaled and combined so that they optimally predict the human
manner-of-speaking judgments.
ELTNEWS
What were the problems you had to solve to create PhonePass?
Jared
It was extremely difficult for us to create a system that could exceed the
abilities of a human rater. There were significant hurdles in every area -
linguistics, speech recognition and statistical modeling.
ELTNEWS
These sound like tough problems. How did you solve them?
Jared
It took us several years of research and an inventive flurry before we could
overcome the difficulties we encountered. Mainly, we needed a clear
scientific model of how people speak, and we needed data from thousands of
native and non-native speakers to fill in and validate those models.
ELTNEWS
Teachers are likely to be concerned about the validity of PhonePass. Is
PhonePass for real?
Jared
During the development of the PhonePass SET-10 test, human graders assigned
over 26,000 scores to thousands of utterances from thousands of different
examinees. Item response analysis of the human grader scores indicates that
human ratings produce relatively consistent grades for fluency,
pronunciation, and conversational skill, with inter-grader reliabilities
between 0.82 and 0.86. When we combined several human judgements of the
overall conversational skill based on examinee responses to open questions,
the resulting score had a reliability of 0.93.
ELTNEWS
What are the benefits of using PhonePass at a university in Japan?
Jared
Well, because of the immediate and accurate results, PhonePass Spoken
English Tests can be used anywhere, at anytime, to monitor progress and
guide instruction. Uses are everywhere, including the evaluation of
potential international teaching assistants, placement of students into
appropriate English courses, benchmarking progress within English courses,
or as an exit exam. The SET tests are less expensive than TOEFL, TOEIC, TSE,
and SPEAK, and have demonstrated high correlation to these other English
language tests.
ELTNEWS
How about using PhonePass for business?
Jared
The benefits to businesses are similar - a fast, flexible and reliable way
to know a person's English skill level - while the applications are slightly
different. Corporations can use the SET Spoken English Tests to efficiently
screen potential job candidates, candidates for international duties, and
candidates for upper level management. The benefits are clear for industries
that require high English proficiency, such as the call center, hospitality,
and health care industries. SET tests can help employers in these industries
identify qualified candidates early in the process and ensure that they have
the right employees in those positions that require real use of spoken
English.
ELTNEWS
What are good examples of PhonePass in action?
Jared
We are pleased with the results of a recent successful trial done at Waseda
University, where SET tests were implemented for measuring improvements in
spoken English proficiency of students in the School of Law. The University
plans to expand usage of the tests to other undergraduate schools for
measuring proficiency and verifying effectiveness of English courses.
Another example of SET tests in use was at last year's World Cup. In one week, the Korean World Cup
Committee administered over 15,000 PhonePass tests to volunteers. Because
they could take the test over the phone, the volunteers didn't need to
travel to a testing center. Since results were typically available within
minutes after the tests were taken, the Korean Organizing Committee could
quickly determine the appropriate position for each volunteer who had taken
the test.
ELTNEWS
Thanks for taking time to talk to us, Dr. Bernstein.
Jared
I look forward to seeing you and your readers next time I'm in Japan.
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