Interview
Roger Barnard
Roger Barnard is Professor in the Department of General Education at Tama Art University, Tokyo, where he teaches
general English and content courses related to art and design. He is the author of "Good News, Bad News" and co-author
of "Business Venture", both published by Oxford University Press, and co-author of "Fifty Fifty",
published by Longman. Professor Barnard has taught in Japan for over twenty years, and is especially interested in content course design.
This is something of a "track from the vault" -- Roger originally spoke with then ELT News editor Michael Chan in April 2001
but the interview was never published. Until now!
On ELT
ELT: When and how did you get involved in English language teaching? Why did you come to Japan?
RB: After graduating from art school in London in the 1960s, I taught art in secondary schools for a while,
then tried (unsuccessfully) to survive as an full-time artist for a few years. A variety of jobs followed
in order to pay the rent, and during this time I became interested in Japanese art, especially woodblock
printing. After beginning Japanese language lessons, then meeting my future wife, Masako, I decided to see
Japan for myself and possibly stay for about a year.
Like so many others before and since, I soon found out that virtually the only way I could survive in Japan
was by teaching English, so I took a two-week course in the Direct Method in London, and was introduced to a
language school in Tokyo where I began teaching in May, 1975.
What with an average of eleven forty-minute lessons a day, mostly based on the first page of the school textbook,
and two-day weekends only every other week, I can't pretend I always enjoyed my first six months or so in Japan,
but that first job has certainly helped me appreciate the jobs I have had since.
Any advice for prospective teachers thinking of teaching here?
Find out something about the culture and language before you arrive, and if you are new to EFL, find out about
the basics of English and EFL teaching. And if you're going to be in Japan in the summer, stock up on deodorant.
How has the ELT scene changed since you started in the profession?
Students are choosier than they were. Most students are studying for a particular purpose these days, and
they want to get results. It's not enough for a foreign teacher to be young, blonde and handsome / pretty
any more (not that I ever was).
There are fewer jobs than there were twenty years ago, and there is a greater number of qualified teachers
going after them.
The range of textbooks was very limited in the seventies. Kernel Lessons Intermediate was widely used, and
just to illustrate the lack of English-language entertainment in those days (no bilingual TV, no satellite
TV, no videos - in fact life itself was in black and white), teachers would memorize whole chunks of the book
and entertain each other by reciting bits at parties.
Teachers used to have bushy sideburns and flared trousers, and that was just the females.
Do you remember the first class you taught?
I clearly remember one of the first. During my second week of teaching, I had to teach a private lesson to Ms. M.,
a new student who had undergone a 'level check' and was rated (like nearly everyone else who came to the school) as
a beginner. Unfortunately, not only did she turn out to be at least a high-intermediate, but my lesson was to be
monitored (all the rooms were bugged) by our trainer to see if I was following the rigorously designed method, which
basically involved reading from the specially written course ‘manual'. Ms. M. was totally bemused by my efforts to
follow the mandatory question sequence of "Is this a pen?" "Is this a pencil?" - "Is this a pen or a pencil?" -
"What is this?" for pen, pencil, eraser, textbook, etc., and we ended up talking about Japanese politics. I was
severely reprimanded after the lesson for straying from the manual.
What's your favorite "breaking the ice" activity for a new class?
During the first class, I often have the students ask me about six questions from cues on the board, e.g.
(Where/from) - "Where are you from?", (Where/live) - "Where do you live?", (Japan) - "When did you come to
Japan?" or "What do you think of Japan" or "Do you like Japan?" I write the cues (old), (married), and
(money) in a 'bomb' to show which questions are inappropriate on first meeting. The students can also ask
their own appropriate questions, of course.
After answering the questions, and introducing the concept of follow-up questions, I dictate six similar
questions for the students to ask each other. The questions can be adapted to suit the level of the class,
for example, the first one would be "What's your name?" for elementary students, or "Could you tell me your
name?" at a higher level. I read the questions at natural speed, using reduced forms; the students write the
questions (not the answers), then check what they have written with a partner. I then elicit the questions
from the class, write them on the board, and work on any errors.
Alternatively, you could ask selected students to write the full questions on the board themselves, but I feel
this might be a little stressful for a first class. After demonstrating how to ask the questions and write the
answers in note form instead of full sentences, I have the students move around the classroom and ask two or
three classmates the questions and note down the answers. They then report to the class what they found out,
e.g. "I spoke to Keiko Nakamura. She's from ...."
I find this activity always goes well; it has a clear purpose, i.e. to help the students to get to know their
teacher and each other, it can be adapted to suit a wide range of levels, it uses a variety of skills and
interaction configurations, and it's active.
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